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Hes getting old and is owed a good chunk of change still. Draft Factor in the Braves are assuming all of the risk hell continue to pitch at an elite level for 5 straight years to top it off, which is no guarantee. If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. MLB Player Spencer Strider has $1 million dollar net worth as of 2022, image source; SportsTalk ATL.com. Then you wont be signing him. Spencer Strider signed a 6 year / $75,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Braves, including $75,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $12,500,000. Strider played collegiate summer baseball for the Falmouth Commodores of the Cape Cod Baseball League in 2018. Hes been healthy for 3 straight years. Makes it more sustainable to retain this core group long term. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Really mature young man. The Braves are taking a risk on a pitcher who has 228 innings as a professional. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams. First and foremost on the agenda will be negotiations with shortstop Dansby Swanson, wholl be a free agent once the postseason concludes. They also made a couple great trades getting future star players that wear near MLB ready (Dansby/Fried). By RotoWire Staff. Take Ohtanis arb for an example, $30MM for next season. MFF thing is, for Swanson the Braves arent going to go near what hell be offered elsewhere. All of these pitchers threw almost as hard if not equally as hard as Strider, all had varying degrees of success, and none of them even made $40M in arbitration. If you give 7 a six year deal that takes him through his age 35 season. Typical cutoff is around 125-145 days into the season! Strider was added to the Atlanta active roster on October 1, 2021, and made his main league debut with one inning of relief against the New York Mets. Padres fans loved it in 2017 when they locked him up, but carrying the last 3 years of that deal was brutal for them. Strider is now expected to join the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022. Strider has two pitches. You dont. Legendary strawmans a better name for you. Darius Vines, RHP 5. Talk about betting on your good judgment! The earliest Strider could have been arb eligible was after 2024. 27. I agree, Dorothy. I know its a business, but much like the Cardinals, the Braves seem to focus more than other clubs on the relational side with their players, thereby giving the Braves an edge over other teams during the respective players FA, if the Braves should choose to being said player back. Morning after getting knocked out plus Striders dig at them a few months ago about not being as good as their record and stats showed meltdown city. Id bet serious coin Swanson wont give up the money some GM who still believes in career years will throw at him. anybody signing Swanson for 6/120 will regret it. Instead, he attended Clemson University and played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers. Luckily for . If youre going to give out a big extension like this, you should wait until after hes played three years or at least two to make sure hes for real, especially if youre only getting one or two free agent years in exchange. You are comparing Harveys call up as a full season is disingenuous. So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. Salary, Earnings Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Go Braves! Why to constant trashing of the Mets when both teams won 101 games. This is one time a record truly means nothing. Thought I was being clear there C Yards. Id be shocked if Strider made more than $45 mil over the next 5 years in total if we let this all play out. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. I guess thats why you make comments without referencing who you are talking about or what makes you an expert. Pitchers arm injuries are a real risk to wipe out a season or two. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. $12M (2025) Does AA hypnotize these guys agents when theyre in the waiting room? Early career extensions are designed to give the team a discount and especially not overpay for their arbitration years. Revenue in baseball is going up and salaries will also. So we are primed in the next 2 years ti go after anyone and hopefully alvarez and baty are legit to add to alonso lindor and whoever else. Playoff team extra year. Lol at a Met fan claiming another teams farm system pitcher turns into.garbage. Say hello to the countless Met pitchers that have done exactly that. If he spent all of 2022 in the majors then assuming he doesnt get sent down at all next year he will have exactly 2 years of service time after 2023. Still, given the general excellence of this group, its impossible not to be bullish on the teams future. While I did admire Matt Harvey in his early prime he really did a lot of stupid things. They signed him to a lucrative six-year, $75 million extension on October 10. They control his first two FA years for somewhere in the range of $40-50MM total, depending how aggressively you want to project his arb numbers and only one of the two years is even guaranteed. Strider is a lock to be Top 2 in ROY voting which gives him an extra year of service time. Im sure it will be reasonably priced. ATLANTA -- Within a matter of minutes, the Spencer Strider narrative changed from: How effective might he be in the National League Division Series to how effective might he be through at least the 2028 season? Im doing the same at the end of October. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. if they waited another year or two like you say, none of this would be possible with the Braves payroll. Agreed, but they hadnt locked up any pitching long-term. Give Swanson credit for being healthy for the last couple of seasons. Extra year for having a mustache. But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). Then again, I also had concerns with Baez, who has a higher degree of volatility due to his approach. The estimates above are crazy. Too much money for a mediocre pitcher with one good year. Rct and Cosmos2 are the two Met commenters on the site that most fit this description. If you do not allow these cookies we will not know when you have visited our site, and will not be able to monitor its performance. This seems like something the MLBPA would endorse. He made his MLB debut in 2021. By all the offensive players Im assuming youre only referring to Harris? The dudes who write for this site were linking Cole to the Angels. In 2021, he threw 94.0 total innings in stints with nearly every Braves MiLB team and added 2.1 with the big league squadhe and Dylan Lee made their Major League debuts on the same day last. Yes, the poor ownership of the past is directly related to the problem but that teams problem going forward will always been the fan support. Yanks2- If one argues that, their critical thinking skills would be worthy of criticism. Only one thing is certain: his grandmother is a huge Cleveland Indians fan. No, the alternative is to wait an extra year or two before extending him and then not overpaying for his arb years if/when you do still decide to extend him. Im a huge mets fan but the braves are the best run organization in baseball by far. Doubtful, Strider was just crying and nobody in NY gives a fk what he says. The team has 15 players, none of which are Swanson, taking up $180M of their payroll in 2023. CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. Spencer pitched as a long reliever and starter, was a three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member, and appeared in 26 games with 10 starts, totaling 63.0 innings pitched. Yeah, selling tickets is all that matters. In 2020, he returned to the field and began playing as a weekend starter. He started the season in Atlanta. Doesnt take a genius to see which one is better for the team. Theyre a tight group and theyre great young men, Snitker said. The Braves seem like they are making all these extensions so their front office can spend the next 4 winters in Bermuda instead of working. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. I was a little shocked at how quickly and how high Striders pay jumps. Those two pitchers both took home multiple pieces of hardware. But most importantly it sets bad precedent for the rest of the league for one team to save a few million dollars. Most of his miscalculations are trigger happy overreactions to common slumps and overvaluing prime players, because he doesnt realize the extra value hes trying to quantify is the consistency they bring in being a star player. Next up resign Dansby. The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. He is definitely a Super Two candidate. Worst case for Strider is close to what happened with Charlie Morton this year, and guess what? ". Prior to his MLB career, he played for minor league teams such as Augusta GreenJackets, Rome Braves, Mississippi Braves, and the Gwinnett Stripers. Scherzer isnt aging crap but it was one bad Wild Card game plus losing that pivotal start vs. ATL (he gave up 6 HR in his final 2 starts (inc. WC game) when he gave up only 13 HR all reg season). Career 89 OPS+ the prior five seasons. Strider wouldve only counted around $750K toward the luxury tax in 2023, had he not signed this extension. Soto himself did not have a top 5 MVP finish this year for example. Phillies are in the WS. If you wait a year or two and he continues to pitch well, then his pricetag doubles. Top 10 hitter in baseball. Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. You didnt just say Strider was better then Degrom and Bauer. The Braves announced a six-year contract extension for Rookie of the Year candidate Spencer Strider. SARASOTAWhat's happening? Strider will qualify for Super Two, so he will get 4 years of arbitration and if next season is close to 2022 then its going to be between the current first year arb record for a starting pitcher of $9.5 million and Bellingers $11.5 million figure. To think 6 years ago Braves fans on here were defending their FO not trading Jim Johnson at the trade deadline and acting like finishing with a better record than the Phillies and Reds that year was going to lead to a giant step forward. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Finally, I know people point to the 10 1/2 game lead the Mets had and call it a collapse. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. Knowing you have certain players locked allows for more flexibility. $16M (2026) 7 Cubs pitchers combine for no-hitter vs Machado, Padres, Top moments from Brady, Manning, Jordan and other athletes hosting 'Saturday Night Live', Fantasy baseball rankings, projections, strategy and cheat sheets, Rangers' Leclerc to miss WBC with neck injury, Rockies' Rodgers may need surgery, '23 at risk, Rojas to withdraw from WBC, stay with Dodgers, Braves' Strider (oblique) to have start skipped. Overall, Strider broke out with 131 2/3 innings of 2.67 ERA ball and a 38.3% strikeout rate that paced all big leaguers who pitched at least 100 innings. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. You know how you can tell you are wrong? Strider has an 77% chance of avoiding it. The Phillies are a bunch of try-hards. But Swanson is not nearly as good as those guys. Actually, you are totally wrong. If Baez and Story sign for 140 add in the shift going awaythe market for Dans is at least 140 plus. Austin Riley was signed to a 10-year, $212 million contract, and Michael Harris II was given an eight-year, $72 million deal. Be patient, dont retype your message, it will there in a minute, I think when this kid told the media after a loss to the Mets that they got cheap, bloop hits and were luckythen follows it up with well see how they are in October, spoke volumes on his make up and confidence. Spencer Robert Strider (born October 28, 1998) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). Missing 1 seasons worth of games over the length of it (this doesnt seem that hard to imagine with pitchers being pitchers) makes this go from ok to bad real quick. Signed thru 2028, 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option, Service Time (01/2023): 1.003 Sure, lofty but possible. MLB, Minor, College and summer league baseball stats along with biography, draft info, salary,transactions, awards and more! Im sure a non-GM telling someone they dont have what it takes to be a GM, carries a lot of weight! Disclamer: the number about Spencer Strider's Instagram salary income and Spencer Strider's Instagram net worth are just estimation based on publicly available information about Instagram's monetization programs, it is by no . You are right about Striders value potentially increasing. All images are property the copyright holder and are displayed here for informational purposes only. The 2022 Atlanta Braves played 162 games during the regular season, won 101 games, lost 61 games, and finished in first position. He would have extended him for 10 years/$200m. Does he hit enough to play left field? Had the Yankees given Judge the same treatment after the 2017 season, we wouldnt be having Judge FA discussions. Gerrit Cole was a Yanks fan growing up, nobody with any knowledge ever though L.A. was really an option. @MJ: If you look at it from Striders perspective, hed be making a lot more money, regardless of where it comes from. From pursuing his hobbies to rebuilding his arm action and. Super Two only applies when they have at least approximately 2/3 of a year of service time but less than a full season to where the team gets almost seven years of control (like the infamous Kris Bryant example) instead of slightly over six as in Striders case. A.J. The only way he wouldnt is with a long demotion next year. Au contraire it is you who needs to check their info. The Braves do it again, getting 2 FA years of a superb pitcher (incl an option year, fcol), and they get those years very close to a SPs peak ages. Genuinely curious. 33. Since Strider got a full year already based on service time it has no bearing here. He was not a Super 2, but posted an insane 2.85 FIP for his career with a Cy Young, 2 All-Star season, and 4 of 5 seasons with an ERA under 3.00. And no, he does not get credited with two years of service time for this year because he spent the whole year on the major league roster AND was a ROY finalist. Period. He is going to see a huge raise to around $25 million this offseason. By 9:30 a.m. Why? The Braves payed for what they wish Strider turns into, but reality says he will never post those numbers again.Maybe Im wrong, but thats a big gamble on the back of 2/3 of a season. Striders the first pitcher in MLB history to strike out over 200 hitters (202 Ks) and give up less than 100 hits (86.) Site occasionally posts comments multiple times. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. I didnt know what he meant. We will gladly take him, throw in 20 million of his salary as well since you feel as though youve overpaid for him? Put those around 4m for a typical, good player, making it.$69m for Striders first 6 seasons. Enjoy the Braves playoff run while you whimper about what could have been for your Mutts. Spencer Strider is on Twitter at SpencerSTRIDer. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. Spencer Strider Contract 2022 If you agree, than stop knit-picking what everyone else says. @BaseballIsLife Thats not what the rule is. Yep. Annoying, but stuff happens.. Good job locking up one of the top young mustaches in the game. Or how that extra service time effects Super Two qualifications. He touched 101 early in the outing. Hell outspend the Dodgers on infrastructure and payroll on his way to becoming the 3rd superteam in the NL. And he performed on a cheap contract for what he produced. Strider just had one of the best seasons for a rookie starter in the arbitration era. If he got close to sniffing free agency, he would have demanded two or three times what we are going to be paying him. . Julio Rodriguez is still going to get a bonus pool increase in his annual pay for his All-Star game appearance, his HR derby appearance, his ROY award, and any other accolade he gets, regardless of his contract. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. $43m for nothing. Strider broke the record for fastest to 200 strikeouts in a single season, doing so in 130 innings, two-thirds of an inning quicker than Hall of Famer Randy Johnson in 2001. Baez/Story trending down, Swanson up. Catcher Shea Langeliers and pitcher Spencer Strider, two of the top prospects in the Atlanta Braves organization, have joined the Gwinnett Stripers for the final five home games of 2021. But I wonder if a team can reach a point that they have too many of these deals and can could reduce their roster flexibility down the road. If Strider is willing to take an extension now, he should be just as willing to do so again after another great year or two. He made his MLB debut in 2021 and now plays for the Mississippi Braves, Gwinnett Stripers, Augusta GreenJackets, and Rome Braves. By comparison the Mariners sign Castillo at roughly $22M/year with a $5M option if he needs TJ surgery in the last 3 years with 80% of the contract covering FA years and coming with a similar option year. His market will drive up the price being one of the only 2nd tier options (behind pricier Boegarts, Trea Turner; Correa shouldnt opt out). So saying a player pays 30% federal tax. Same. Strider is represented by Frontline. Id hate to be him if he becomes human in Atlanta over the next 6 years. You do need to add a year of FA to that because 6 years takes them through his first year of FA. Its not close. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. (Age 22-338d, I hope Bloom is watching the Braves and learning. I was down there for that last Mets series and all I heard was silence from the Mets fan base Sunday night. What's the Dodgers' plan at shortstop? Max was gassed in the NLCS last year. No one here, or elsewhere, has any idea how that process is currently going w/Swanson. Judge is a high strikeout guy whose average is buoyed by his homerun total. Thats $47M making his free agent year more like $28M with a $22M option. . If he reaches his potential, sure if you want to believe that, but not on a long-term deal for a 30-year-old pitcher. Hes a rookie. Thats conjecture, you stating what his arb years would or wouldnt be considering the volatility of pitchers, players with less than two years of major league experience, players with less than 150 major league innings, and who have barely seen each team once, when pitching has the advantage over hitting when neither has faced each other. I was comparing their first full seasons. And we're still kind of mulling over what's the right thing for us and him and how to use him.. Theres some degree of risk for the Braves in laying out such lengthy commitments, even if each looks quite team friendly in a vacuum. Gotta love it. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! How do you know what hell be just as willing to do? Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. That means $36 million for each of the two seasons. Otherwise, smart to stash the stache. I also think thats one reason Freeman was so guilt-ridden, or whatever, about not returning when he had the chance. Thats before considering a slate of arbitration-eligible players headlined by lefty Max Fried, whos projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn more than $12MM in 2023. But since they extended him this is obviously all moot. In fact, you should not make a purchase without a calculator, a phone call to a certified public accountant, and night courses in math at the local community college. Of course, thats certainly not all the Braves will do this winter. The Prime games are not really an inconvenience since I have Prime. Thats pretty much the point: Those arbitration payouts are only worth it at about a 95%+ projection of his future value, whereas they should be paying close to the 50% projection if even that much. Yeah, then every utility bench player with a heart of gold should make $10-15M a year. Doubt the Sox are much happier w/Story, but Red Sox fans would know much more about that than I do. Luis Guanipa, OF 12. Winning always helps too. Yeah Anthopoulos has spent right to the cap limit if he brings back Swanson! Strong post NashvilleJ: thanks for mentioning the agent relationship angle. 2024: minimum He only hit the first two weeks he was up. Acuna contract was great. Who are the Braves going to play at SS the 25% plus of the time Correas on the bench w/his bad back? Swanson has not been nearly as good as Baez was prior to signing with the Tigers. That means he will have 2.003 so he will qualify for Super Two. It looks pretty risky to me to give him that big of an extension after just his rookie year while only getting one or two extra years of his services. @Lanidrac Its very unlikely to hurt the Braves badly, since short of catastrophic injury (for which theyll probably have insurance) theyd be keeping him around anyway, shepherding him through TJ should that happen, paying arb awards, collecting insurance. Their window didnt change with this signing. Its not close. Be the first one to comment on this story. They are respected as a team on the field, but not as a market. The Braves have no SS prospects at the upper mil levels. Spencer Strider only appeared in one game for the Braves last season and was not very well-known around the league. Talent evaluation, competent analysis, and a decent memory arent your strong suits. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028. Deferred payments and incentive clauses are not included. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. Definitely one of the best pitchers in the game but when it truly matters he crumbled. Thats $83M and even then I think those are totally unattainable, even if he won 2 Cy Young Awards and went to the All-Star game every year and what does that save the Braves $11M? The dumb ones, like the Alderson-Eppler-Cohen Mets, traded 11 rWAR worth of MI for the privilege of giving Lindor $363m over 11 seasons because, as usual, they couldnt see what was right in front of them. And Fried is the one you need to worry about locking up. Going to be stunned if AA downgrades at SS w/their current competitive excellence at all other positions except left field. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. Lets say you are going to a MLB game at your local stadium and for-the-sake-of-argument lets say there are only 4 seat choices: bleachers $15, nose-bleeds (2nd & 3rd deck) $40, between 1st and 3rd base behind the dugouts for $100, and a seat in a suite for $150. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/super-two-status-set-at-2-116-years-of-service.html. This new contract not only finally topples that dated mark (in decisive fashion), it also surpasses the established extension records for pitchers with two to three years of service time (Blake Snells five-year, $50MM deal) and even with three to four years of service (Sandy Alcantaras five-year, $56MM deal). Corbin Burnes is entering his 5th full season and 2nd pass through arbitration, which is only projected to pay him $11.3M. Thank_ God: The correct sentence structure you should have put is.. Try used instead of put. Elude.? He started 20 times and finished three . It would also be easier to negotiate more free agent years into the deal while still getting a significant discount on them. Theres a reason Cohen has the money he has, and it isnt by being a fool October? Angels were very much in the running for Cole. Later in the season, he missed the season due to a torn UCL, which necessitated Tommy John surgery.