Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. And the cougar embodies that. Let's look for other evidence. Here it is. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. Yes. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. Right. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. OK. That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. Theres tracks everywhere. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. Do they travel. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Absolutely. I tracked cats and all the western states. Give today. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. I didn't see him online. They just end up in these places. Through DNA they approximate area in the United States or North America where I was born. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. Course like Sue said you have to see it and it's not always that visible. I mean it wasn't your idea. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. And they were using all the habitat. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". List of Mountains in New Hampshire is a general list of mountains in New Hampshire, with elevation.This list includes many mountains in the White Mountains range that covers about a quarter of the state, as well as mountains outside of that range.. Mountain lions when they show up they leave evidence. So what counts as verifiable evidence? So now what's going on. Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. You know I'm like seriously I can't get a picture of the thing but what it what it is. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. Are there Mountain Lions in NH? The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. That's too big for Bobcat. That's the real story is they can't follow up on every one of these sightings. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Sam. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. Current conditions in New Hampshire would support a mountain lion, according to Tate, as forests have returned, allowing for prey species to become more prevalent. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. So I want to start the program with a comment from someone who is not in the studio with us today. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. Pelosi story here we go. Its actually fairly reasonable to believe that mountain lions do, at least, pass through occasionally. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. We'll hear from her periodically through the show. Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. Thanks for taking my call. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. Mark Elbroch doesnt think so. Have a photo. Let's talk to Bob in Laconia Bob. John if you're still on the line here I was going to I don't. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. And that's this morning at 10:00 here on NH PR. Just. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. They were able to do all that by genetics. GAP MOUNTAIN LIONS CLUB Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire (USA) District 44-N . We had six copies printed out each. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. No doubt in my mind it was. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. I don't see the hoaxes anymore at that level. And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. Verifiable pictures recorded by the observing person or a trail camera. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. Thanks for your call. But no proof was offered. Thank you very much for listening. On Oct. 10, he gave a slide talk called "Wild Cats of New Hampshire," which included the bobcat and the lynx. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. And now that everyone and their mother has a remote camera in their back yard its just so, so unlikely that there are resident, breeding mountain lions in New England that are living invisibly among us, he says, Its become Big Foot.. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. I mean I that said I've lived out west for nine years. Having not found any evidence is not the same as saying there are no mountain lions, its the same as saying we dont know. Right. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. We'd love to have you in the queue. And so far we have not had any positive mark lion scats or any DNA. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. OK. Rick van de Poll: Rick and I would add that if a mountain lion male takes up residence and successfully finds a female as pets there's gonna be a lot more evidence there will be like deer carcasses up in trees and territorial marking and claw marks and tracks and it you know dispersal is gonna be very tough to see or observed but residential parrots a totally different story. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. This is not the same as saying that there has never been a mountain lion seen in New Hampshire. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. What's going on. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. He studied Politics and Spanish at Bates College, and before reporting was variously employed as a Spanish teacher, farmer, bicycle mechanic, ski coach, research assistant, a wilderness trip leader and a technical supporter. Thanks very much. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? "Of those three to five reports,. Tate said that while a mountain lion sighting in New Hampshire isn't likely, it's not impossible. In fact, Pat Tate concedes that hes been told of sightings from folks that he considers to be very credible, very woods savvypeople who know what a bobcat looks likebut those folks have never snapped a good photo or found a good track. So and so the idea that they can follow up on every individual sighting is just crazy right. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. I'll send it to you. Copyright New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.An official New Hampshire government website. And why would they what. Peter Biello: Thank you for sharing that. Pat what do you think the mystique of the mountain lion. She is renowned for tracking. He writes As a farmer I come across many outdoorsman looking to hunt our property had a conversation with one who believed very strongly that we had mountain lions in New Hampshire. Thank you. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas.
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